Essentially, I've been laying foundation for John's potty learning since he was born. The mere fact that most babies are their watching their stay-at-home moms in the bathroom multiple times per day is teaching about toilet habits! I had wanted to try some part-time elimination communication with John (what the entire countries of India and China, plus many others, still practice to this day), but was too overwhelmed as a new mother and missed the window of opportunity, but maybe next time! Really, I view potty training more as potty learning, something the child is doing for months and years starting from birth. (In fact, I believe--quirky as I am--that we train infants to go potty in their diapers, which actually goes against their instincts. Then we arbitrarily decide later that now it is time to train them never to go potty in their diapers.) We don't "train" a child to walk or use utensils to eat or anything else in just a few days: it's really a months- or years-long process that involves observing adults do the behavior, imitating at a baby level, stumbling, making mistakes, and having success an increasing amount of the time. Just think: We announce, "Our baby learned to walk!" at a certain point, but the baby doesn't walk as well when he first learns as he does a few months later, or at two years old, or at five years old, and in fact he's still improving his coordination for quite a few more years! Yet we expect toddlers to just "learn" to use a grown-up toilet (and manage their clothing on and off, and wipe, and wash hands with soap, and stay dry all night, and stay dry in public . . .) all at once and just be done with it.
John is at that sweet age when he is showing much interest in the potty and is imitative and desirous to please. I do think it's a little strange that most of us in America wait until the child is two to three years old to begin potty training, when that is when they are smack in the middle of their age-appropriate rebellion and desire to be different than the parent. John has a sign for POTTY (verb and noun) and uses it with 100% accuracy to inform me beforehand when he is going to have a bowel movement. He shows great interest in the physical mechanics of the grown-up toilet and toilet paper. I have learned to stifle my instinct to shriek, "No! That's dirty! That's not for you!" I don't want to scare him away from a tool that, in fact, I want him to learn how to use! Instead I'm letting him touch the toilet (although he is still not allowed to entirely unroll the toilet paper!) and we're just incorporating washing his hands before we exit the bathroom.
I recently bought him Mr. Rogers' book Going to the Potty. I did not realize the acute interest John would show, but he has asked us to read the book over and over in the last few days. He repeatedly makes the sign for POTTY, says "wow!," and stares with the greatest concentration. Here is a video clip of his reading the book:
After seeing such great interest, today I bought John his own toddler's toilet. He's had an insert for the adult toilet for months, but he seems to feel nervous sitting on it. Some kids do better on their own little toilet with feet firmly planted on the floor, so we're going to try that. John tried sitting on it in the store and seemed eager and simultaneously serious about his little accomplishment, like he knew sitting on it was a big deal. Here we are at home, showing Daddy:
And note in this photo John's very first scraped knee. We recently made some improvements to our balcony: we had screening installed to keep out the glaring sun and bugs, we laid down an outdoor rub, and we furnished it with some comfortable chairs and a table. Now John enjoys playing out there, but he tripped and landed on the cement, scraping his knee.
P.S. And, yes, even I see the humor in how I can have so many opinions about potty training when I haven't been through it completely yet with my first child!
You are right, all my kids have showed an interest in training around 18 months to 2 years but I actually stifled it because I was too sick / tired from pregnancy to do any follow up!!
ReplyDeleteLol, my DS is sitting on his Baby Bjorn potty as I type. I share yours views on potty training/learning. The majority of children have control over those muscles by 18-24 mo., so like you, I don't understand why more parents take advantage of it! Morning sickness is one thing, but the things I hear from other moms in my playgroup are nothing like that! They're all astonished DS was completely out of diapers (other than nighttime) at 21 months.
ReplyDeleteI still think CDing has something to do with it too, though. Even if a child can control those muscles, it doesn't do much good if they don't really feel what's going on in plastic diapers. Maybe not, though. More than anything, bare bottom worked for us.
We started really talking about the potty with DS when he was around 1-- taught him the sign and bought him the insert for the "big" toilet. Lucky for us, he's never nervous about it (too interested in seeing how it all works) or public toilets that often have automatic flushing and are loud.
Anyway, DS was around John's age when his interest really started to kick in and he developed an awareness of what his body was doing and a real interest in accompanying mom and dad to the bathroom! After a few months, he started trying so hard to copy us, and after two nights of the bath "releasing" things, he totally got it and wanted to use the big potty! That was that. From then on, he used the potty (big or little).
We did a few weeks bare bottom (with potty use totally self-directed/initiated) and now he wears his undies and is good about remembering to let me know when he needs help. I think the only disadvantage at this age is that he can't completely take his pants on and off yet, so he's still dependent on me to help him and occasionally remind him if he's really engrossed in something (like playing outside). What I really found astonishing (and I think you'll have the same experience) was how he really did it all on his own. Like I said, bare bottom he just DID it. No reminders, etc.
I know you said you had an insert for the toilet, and I would definitely recomment a folding seat or something to use when you're out. That was really important to me that we not go back to diapers at all, and DS doesn't feel comfortable on those huge toilets without some kind of modification. Public restrooms are enough of a distraction: all that bathroom "stuff," lol!
Enjoy the journey! Of course, I wouldn't have pushed DS if he resisted or just wasn't ready, but I'm loving being virtually diaper laundry-free for a few months before the new baby comes!
Sarah: I can imagine if I had a newborn right now, there's probably no way I could try to foster John's potty training!
ReplyDeleteCourtney: Thanks so much for sharing your experience! These are helpful to hear. My friend Elaine had her last child totally out of diapers by 24 months and her method was so gradual and gentle, she said it was incredibly easy! She used a lot of bare bottom time too. I think it is so important to get through potty training--if at all possible--without battles of wills, which I think can set up emotional problems around toilet functions.
ReplyDeleteWe do cloth diapering too and I think it helps.
Questions: (1) How do you get a child to try eliminating in the tub? How do you get him to understand to release? (2) Can you give me a link for that folding seat you use on public toilets? That sounds extremely helpful. (3) What carpet cleaner do you use for accidents during bare bottom time? (4) I don't think I knew you were pregnant! When are you due? Looks like we're on an extremely similar schedule, although I think you're a few months ahead of me with both.
I'm glad you didn't mind (or were too polite to say so) that I wrote a book. I really didn't mean to, but it's so hard to summarize these things! Maybe I should start blogging again instead of taking up space on other people's!
ReplyDeleteBattle of the wills=so true. Sometimes we almost edge into that when we're out in public and I was DS to use the toilet before we get back in the car to drive home, go to another store, etc. He would rather point out every little thing in the stall than get right down to business. It can take a little coaxing, but if he outright says "no" or is taking f.o.r.e.v.e.r. I just shelve it for a bit. Not worth it and you know what? He knows his body! No accidents so far!
As to your questions:
1) The tub thing was all DS. For some reason, right as he was learning about those muscles and how to control them, he started peeing in the tub. Now, I should say that DS has always been a baby that had pretty good control from the outset: really early bowel control (especially out in public), never released his bladder on the changing table, or the tub, etc. so when that started, I kind of ran with it. Just like you said it your latest post, "Oops! You went potty in the tub! Next time let's try to pee in the potty." For some reason, for him, that helped him realize what his body was doing. I have no idea what to tell you about using that with John! I think asking him about sitting on the potty first thing in the AM and after naps is probably a better one since we know that's a prime time for elimination!
You said the John is pretty consistent with signing potty when he has a bowel movement. Is he also consistent with time of day? I read in Dr. Sears that daytime bowel control usually develops before bladder control, so if he has a BM at roughly the same time each day, you could go bare bottom then. It's interesting based on what I've read in Sears about the order in which kids develop control over those muscles (bowel control first) because so many parents report urination has being the first, but kids hold out on using the potty for #2. DS was okay with using the potty for both at the same time. Anyway...
2) Here's the folding seat we have: http://www.amazon.com/Mommys-Helper-Cushie-Traveler-Potty/dp/B000F1O8T8/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=baby-products&qid=1210204823&sr=8-2 Don't be frightened by some negative reviews. It's worked really well for us, just make sure you position it as far back on the seat as possible. DS usually straddles too to feel more stable. Oh, and mama going first sometimes helps him get down to business more quickly. You didn't ask this, but he wears Imse Vimse training pants when we're out. They're a little more absorbent (just in case) and Gerber at home.
3) I mostly used my regular TTO and vinegar spray bottle on the carpet, but I also have a small steamer that I brought out at times. Depends on what kind of accident it was! Once the process is more or less finished, you may want to rent/borrow a carpet steamer. I did that for our playroom.
4) Baby #2 is due the first week in August! We are on similar schedules. I love knowing other mamas going through the same ages and stages! It's so helpful. :-) Do you think you'll find out the gender of your little one? I can't remember if you did or not with John. It's looks like another boy for us, and I'm tickled pink (blue?). I'm so thrilled DS will have a playmate so close in age. Well, a girl would have been a playmate too, but another boy is so exciting! They'll wear each other out (I hope). ;-)
Katherine,
ReplyDeleteI got a folding potty seat for public toilets at Walmart and have seen them at Target too. Keep me updated on how the potty training goes. I plan to start soon.
How far along are you now? How are you feeling? I am 10 weeks, due 12/1. I am really tired all the time and nauseated. I don't remember being this tired with my pregnancy with Carli. I am struggling just to get day-to-day tasks done (dishes, laundry, meals!) I have been taking naps when Carli naps, then beating myself up about not getting as much done as I wanted to!
Mariah
Katherine,
ReplyDeleteRebecca told me you might try EC with you next one. I just learned about it at the LLLI conference here in March. I just started using it with James. I mostly catch the morning [*$%] and [&*%$]. I had Adriana totally potty trained (day and night) by 22 months. Really she self trained but I don't think that will happen again and I don't want the will struggle either so I figure it can hurt to start now. I love it. We are starting to put him on the [*&$#@] at every changing and use the p*** p*** or [#$@%^#!$@] sound. It is also fun for Adriana to get involved. I think your are so right about letting children imiate you when you are in the bathroom, I really think that is why Adriana potty trained herself so quickly. Good luck to you in your journey.
Adrianne from CNML
[Editors note: YIKES!!! all this bathroom talk is making the overly prudish father blush.]