This morning's Mass experience was interesting. Chris sat with John up front and I sat with Mary in back. Mary behaved by far the best she has ever behaved.
We started out in the church and Mary basically sat on her behind the whole time, flipping through my notebook or a missalette quietly. (I don't bring toys or snacks, having tried those and found that my two kids in particular use them as a bigger distraction.) Once she asked to use the bathroom, so I took her out for that. She didn't cry out of scream once, but mostly whispered her little chattering. I was sitting with her, overjoyed that she seemed to be making it through a whole Mass at 21 months, when John didn't start doing that till around two-and-a-half.
But perhaps God wanted to make sure no pride snuck into my heart. We were seated in front of a woman perhaps in her 60s or 70s and perhaps long past remembering what it is like to have little children around. I could tell by her body language that she was highly irritated with Mary--seemingly with her mere presence since she was being such a good girl.
When we came back from the bathroom visit, a woman sitting behind the irritated woman, grabbed my hand as I walked past and whispered, "Would you like to switch with me? That woman is really upset with you." I gratefully accepted the offer, thereby setting me immediately behind the irritated woman instead of immediately in front of her. I'm sure she wished we were farther away.
Then I spent the remainder of Mass somewhat distracted, wondering if the woman would say something bold (like was said to a friend of mine once about her basically quiet toddler: "You ruined the Mass today!"). Should I apologize? Should I say, "I regret that you were distracted"? Should I be more challenging and ask her exactly what the problem was? I pondered these questions when I shouldn't have been, and then the woman never did say anything to me.
It was an interesting situation to me to see that there are pitfalls for pride everywhere (at least for me!) and that one can't please everyone ever. Here my daughter did fabulously and she's not even two years old, and still somebody found reason to be "very upset" with us.
I think there is a feeling creeping into Catholic parishes that children don't belong in Mass unless and until they can be silent and still (so, five, six, seven years old--even older judging by parents I see who troop their eight and nine year olds into the cry room at the start of Mass, to sit there, letting them play and eat snacks the whole time). Frankly, I think the notion is creeping in from our country's Protestant culture, as in Protestant churches it is more the norm to have "children's church" or Sunday school, so that children do not worship with their parents for years.
And that got me to pondering if that particular lack of welcoming of children in Mass is an effect of contraception being embraced by religions, starting with Protestant teachings being changed in 1920, and now among Catholics in practice, if certainly not in teaching (nor will it or can it ever be embraced in teaching). I imagined a culture where families were simply accepting of babies arriving every year or two and generally having big families: that just isn't going to be a culture that relegates children to arts and crafts rooms during worship of God. Also, that culture is going to understand the ages and stages of children and that they aren't still and silent from birth, but good behavior comes with maturity and teaching. But compare that to a culture in which virtually everyone is making sure they have their one or two children only on their own schedule, that culture is going to regard children as a nuisance, which is going to change how and where children are welcomed.
Maybe I'm on a wild sociological goose chase. These were my wandering thoughts during the latter half of Mass today because of a woman who probably wished we had "children's church"--when our parish doesn't have so much as a nursery, thank God!
We were just having this same conversation today! We spent a terrible 10 minutes in the cry room (because I refuse to troop in and out during the homily since my baby decides *always* to scream during quieter moments) and I was horrified and upset that there were a group of boys- the youngest probably 6 and the oldest 10- playing with a LOUD electronic toy in the cry room, running about like they were not even in Mass. These things greatly upset me because I came from a Protestant culture where you "send" your kids to children's church to learn about God, because what can they possibly learn sitting next to you in worship. I theorize that this is why so many Protestant churches have to make Sunday worship into a show with lights, bands and more a rock concert feel. I'm sorry you were made to feel like your child was a bother when I know she was (and both of them are) so well behaved.
ReplyDeleteI think you're spot on, Katherine. This is a frequent discussion point on Catholic Answers and everywhere usually reaches the same conclusion you have.
ReplyDeleteI cannot comment on the Protestant versus Catholic thing at all, but I have definitely noticed in our culture how children seem to be more like "accessories" these days, at least that's how it seems with some of the people I used to work with who became parents the same time I did. Their kids have all the fancy clothes, but the parents both work 40+ hours per week. My kids don't have fancy clothes and toys and activities, but they have me!
ReplyDeleteAs for the woman at mass, I too have experienced disapproving glances from people of that generation...more often than not, my grandparent's generation were of the "children should be seen and not heard" mindset. It's quite sad, really...
Interestingly, I was just having this conversation with an Orthodox Jewish friend. She said in her synagogue, women are encouraged to stay at home with their small children because it is a "grave sin for a child to interrupt a man's davening/praying".
ReplyDeleteSo, its not just a protestant thing ;)
But ugh! So sorry about your experience! It is such an anti-life attitude on her part. And its not like you were forcing your out of control child on her. I am so sorry!
This is my first time commenting on your site Katherine but I have been lukering for a couple years now... I am a member of Catholic Mothers Online.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree with you more on this topic and I have been in the same place a number of times... the biggest struggle for me was when we belonged to my childhood parish in which my family has belonged to for 100 years and my husband and I find ourseleves the only one there with little children occasionally. Getting lots of looks when ever our little one's would make a peep. I often thought to myself we sit all the way in the back with our little's trying not to distrupt anyone, if people feel like little one's are a nosiness why can't they sit in the front pew...
We have since been attending Latin Mass with lots of Children and have seem to found our Home!
that is so weird that an elderly person had such an issue with the baby. normally i find they are simply gaga over children, even ill behaved ones.
ReplyDeleteyay for mary sitting in Mass!!
My sister has often told me of disapproving parishoniers at her church. I find that very, very sad.
ReplyDeleteJesus said, "Suffer the little children to come unto me." not "Get those noisy kids away from me!" Where else can they be closest to our Lord, but at Mass!!!!
We are Byzantine Catholic & our Liturgy is full of almost constant singing. The church is full of icons & painting from ceiling to floor. I find that when we switched rites from Latin to Byzantine that my kids were so overwhelmed with the images & the singing that they tend to be quiet now! (God bless!)
When I find myself in a Latin Rite church with parishioners who give disapproving glances, I just smile back. A kind, gentle smile & think about Jesus, what he would do. And I offer up a prayer for those people.
I mean, really, we are the ones who are producing and raising the new generation of Catholics. The other people without children should reach out in a Christ-like way and offer help & support.